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Two different datasets, referring to very different cohorts. But we did it before anyone else did.
There’s a lot of very good reasons not to plot the Sutton Trust/IFS course level mobility data against the Office for Students’ Proceed data. The former is based on decades-old LEO and recruitment data, the latter on comparatively recent HESA stats (Graduate Outcomes and Continuation). The former is multi-cohort, the latter looks at the most recently available data for both measures – not the same cohort of course, that would be far too elegant. Many providers, including some particularly famous ones, don’t feature at subject level in the Sutton Trust IFS data at all.
On the face of it what a provider – and what a subject area within a provider – was like fifteen plus years ago has very little bearing on the quality of provision in more recent years. Not that this stops Discover Uni presenting LEO data like it meant anything, but in serious research and regulation we do need to separate off historic performance from current output quality.
Finally, compound measures are unwieldy to think about and not consistent as to what they tell us about provision. I usually plot them as scatter graphs because high x, low y is very different from low x, high y – a different problem, a different story. Here I’m plotting a compound measure against a compound measure, which makes me unhappy.
That said, there are some interesting effects visible with this plot:
There’s probably a load more of interest in here – but for now have fun and please don’t draw conclusions too sharply if you are a regulator or minister… the data doesn’t support that kind of use.
[Success (IFS) vs Progression (Proceed), and Access (IFS) vs Continuation (Proceed)]