00:15:39 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): Hello from warm and still sunny East London 00:16:15 Lynne: hello from a very warm and still sunny south Manchester :) 00:16:22 Debbie McVitty: Welcome all! Keeping cool? 😎 00:16:52 steve martin: Greetings from sunny Dorset 00:17:00 Nicola Dew: Hello from Wiltshire, where we are starting to see clouds! 00:17:10 Team Wonkhe: Hello everyone, looking forward to today’s session. We’ll be starting shortly. Do share who you are and where you’re joining from 🙂 00:17:19 Amanda: Greetings from a cloudy and rather humid Bath (the city that is!) 00:17:34 Elizabeth Avery: Wilting in Woking :)! 00:17:36 Barbara Bassa, AHE: Greetings from sunny Sheffield :) 00:17:38 Esther: Hello from Leeds- sunshine after a very thundery and rainy downpour here in Leeds! 00:17:44 Team Wonkhe: Haha - thanks for the clarification Amanda! 00:18:08 Ciara Eastell: Hi, I'm Ciara, a governor at Arts University Plymouth and in a much cooler mid-Devon! 00:18:11 Mike Ratcliffe (CCCU): Hello from glorious Canterbury (with even more glorious air con) 00:18:18 Sarah Baxter: Hello everyone - joining from a sunny but windy East Yorkshire coast 00:18:21 gayleg: Greetings from a warm and lovely Bournemouth :-) 00:18:25 Ivana Ćurčić: Greetings from London, Canary Wharf. 00:18:27 Emma: Greetings from beautiful (if not a little damp) York 00:18:30 Lois McGrath: Hello from boiling Bangor! 00:18:34 Richard Kamm: Based in Bath but joining today from Gloucestershire 00:18:36 Fireflies.ai Notetaker Rod: Rod invited Fireflies.ai here to record & take notes. By continuing, you agree to https://fireflies.ai/privacy Type: '/ff pause' - pause recording '/ff leave' - to stop recording View Realtime notes here: https://app.fireflies.ai/live/01KSPTZFAJ40FHNFQE1XZQ33GH?ref=live_chat 00:18:40 Mamta Ondhia: London Waterloo is still very warm and sunny! 00:18:40 Lisa McAleese: Greetings from sunny Anglesey (wfh today). 00:18:44 cmhaymes: Hello from Bradford - a bit blowy, but the sun is shining. 00:18:45 Andrew Crampton: Greetings from sunny Huddersfield 00:18:57 Rachel: Hi everyone, joining from a sunny Birmingham 00:19:00 Nora Stokes: Hi from sunny Shropshire. 00:19:01 Dr Charles Wiffen: Hi from overcast Bath! 00:19:02 James Mackenzie: Hello all, from a very hot Portsmouth! 00:19:05 Michelle Elliott, UCQ: Hello from UCQ, Newcastle (but currently calling from Glasgow). 00:19:16 Emma Heron Northampton Uni: Blue skies in Sheffield! 00:19:23 Simon P: Hi from sunny Southampton 00:19:23 Carol.Gray: hello from sunny and breezy Cheshire 00:19:30 Trudy Waterton-Duly - Arden University: Hello from Sunny windy Suffolk! 00:19:33 Rachel: Hello from a beautiful and sunny Bristol! 00:19:38 Natalie Zimmelman: Hi from Johannesburg, where it is always sunny even when cold or raining! 00:19:43 David Crowther: Hello from Cardiff. Overcast but warm today. 00:19:53 Tracy Barber: Hello from Oxford. 00:20:04 944154: Hello from Kingston Upon Hull! 00:20:12 Kieran: Kieran from a muggy Dursley 00:20:20 Team Wonkhe: Natalie I think you may win the award for joining from the most far away (and exciting) location! 00:20:21 Elizabeth Avery: Currently developing student facing and faculty facing AI guidance in my role as Senior Manager of Digital Learning and Curriculum Innovation. 00:21:04 Michelle Smyth: Hi all from The Open University in Milton Keynes. 00:21:17 Jane Hoar: Hi from Westminster! 00:21:23 Team Wonkhe: That sounds really exciting (and I imagine challenging), Elizabeth. Would love to hear more about how that’s going when you get the chance 00:21:37 Helena McKenna: Hi all from sunny and hot London 😊 00:21:38 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): Is there a list where we can see who has signed for LLE? 00:21:59 Ruth Williams: Hi from UoG 00:22:16 Team Wonkhe: Here you go Stefan https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/providers-approved-for-lifelong-learning-entitlement-modular-funding/lle-modular-funding-approved-providers-and-subjects-in-scope 00:22:38 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): Cheers @Ruth Williams 00:24:43 Team Wonkhe: Link to that report: https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000384326 00:24:48 Georgina: Will we receive the slides? 00:25:37 Elizabeth Avery: @Team wonkHE yes. Things are changing everyday regarding AI capability and what skills will be needed by staff and students! I am using the framing / lens of This is how we learn and this is how GenAI helps or hinders it. My objective is to get students and staff to work out what their Approach/ philosophy towards GenAI needs to be in the context of their subject in addition to how we learn too. 00:26:47 David Crowther: A bit of both, probably. 00:27:58 Team Wonkhe: Yes you will get a recording, copy of the slides and the transcript sent to you this afternoon via email. Alternatively you can check on this page here as they will be uploaded here. https://wonkhe.com/events/degrees-of-flexibility/ 00:30:32 Georgina: Reacted to "Yes you will get a recording, copy of the slides and the transcript sent to you this afternoon via email. Alternatively you can check on this page here as they will be uploaded here. https://wonkhe.com/events/degrees-of-flexibility/" with 👍 00:31:38 Team Wonkhe: As the pilot (in its current form) in Australia is closing down the marketplace is currently out of action while the pilot’s success is reviewed! But you can find out all the info about it on the links in the slides. And here: https://www.studyassist.gov.au/news/microcred-seeker-new-platform-microcredentials-launched 00:32:35 Team Wonkhe: But you can explore the courses on offer in Ireland - which are much more varied in the types of courses than Australia, for example: https://microcreds.ie/partners/university-college-cork 00:34:15 Steven Osborne: Wales and Northern Ireland (with QAA funded by Medr) and separately Scotland via the Scottish Funding Council are developing National Micro-credentials Frameworks aiming to be published later in 2026.. These national frameworks to build on the QAA Micro-credential Characteristic Statement and global examples by developing sector agreed quality benchmarks and examples for this flexible provision - e.g. proportional solutions for all areas of the quality code.. all linked to national qualifications frameworks and EU framework.. 00:36:00 Team Wonkhe: All good! 00:38:14 Lois McGrath: I’m thinking a lot about flexible lifelong learning as an ecosystem - not just individual courses or micro-credentials, but the wider mix of CPD, employer-led learning, community/adult learning, short courses, credit-bearing routes and progression pathways. The challenge is how we connect, explain and value that ecosystem properly within universities. This links closely to the work UALL is doing too, and we’ll be exploring many of these themes at the upcoming UALL/SCUTREA conference. Anyone interested in flexible lifelong learning, micro-credentials or adult learning might want to consider joining us: https://uall.ac.uk/events/uall-scutrea-2026-conference/ Steve has also just shared a useful update on the Micro-credentials Special Interest Group in Wales and the forthcoming Wales and Northern Ireland micro-credential framework, which is well worth a look. https://www.qaa.ac.uk/about-us/our-main-areas-of-work/our-work-in-wales/student-experience-in-wales/micro-credentials 00:42:38 Joanne Hunter: What are the pricing models? 00:42:49 Steven Osborne: Scottish Funding Council pages on Micro-credentials https://www.sfc.ac.uk/skills-lifelong-learning/micro-credentials/ 00:43:23 Emma Heron Northampton Uni: Richard - when you talk about 'the human support' in assessment- does that include marking? 00:44:08 Vicky Gregory: Is the human support element administrative or subject related? Or is the latter more aligned to the AI learning aids? 00:44:31 Elizabeth Avery: I would like to know how you are handling the issue of AI Agents being deployed to do courses and assessments. Have you found a technological solution to this? 00:45:44 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): What is the credit value for these micro-credentials? 00:46:12 Mike Ratcliffe (CCCU): If only the LLE application process was as simple as that UoL user journey... 00:46:17 Philippa Alway (UCAS): Curious to understand what the admissions processes and entry requirements are, Richard? 00:46:26 Helen King (BSU): Same question from me! do the micro-credentials hold academic credit? 00:46:43 Elizabeth Avery: I'm also interested in how you will use learning analytics (quant and qual data) to inform enhancement of the learner journey. 00:48:20 Michelle Smyth: Apologies - have to leave now for another call but will catch up later on the recording. Thanks for organising. 00:48:54 Elizabeth Avery: Are you creating a bespoke AI assistant for each credential that is trained and grounded in specific documentation? 00:48:57 Adam Campbell: Can students 'cash-in' their microcredentials for a UoL award? 00:49:49 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): What fees are charged per micro-credentials - how much of this will be assigned to the uni provider? I imagine modules are designed by the federation partner and UoL is providing the platform? Or does UoL also do the learning design? 00:50:59 Richard Kamm: What information do you have about how enthusiastic employers are about job applicants or current employees taking microcredentials of this stackable and modular type? 00:51:45 Dr Charles Wiffen: Will learners be able to draw down LLE funding for any of these microcredentials? (I assume they'd need to stack multiple microcredentials together in order to do so). 00:52:51 Team Wonkhe: I will allow Richard to respond live and in the chat, but there’s a really helpful FAQs page here: https://www.london.ac.uk/study/microcredentials 00:53:32 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): 15 credits? Does not LLE need 30 credits to be funded? 00:53:48 Steven Osborne: It will be interesting to monitor how the LLE "Course Year" focus (instead of the traditional programme year), credit value/ credit bank and cost-per-credit limits will impact how institutions begin to reorganise their legacy curriculum management and student records systems 00:53:48 Dr Mark J.P Kerrigan: Thank you. I am just thinking about reporting (B3 etc…) Are there any considerations or actions you have had to take regarding these or others? 00:54:02 Elizabeth Avery: Do you give guidance regarding the order in which micro credentials should be completed (if students want to do several of them)? As a learning designer there is a tension to work through regarding the need to scaffold learning sequencially and building up skills vs a desire for a pick n mix learning journey! 00:54:10 Jane Hoar: How different is the marketing approach for these credits? 00:54:17 Pippa Quigley: How do you ensure that the final award is created from suitable credits/micro credentials? 00:55:43 Steven Osborne: @ Stefan Krummaker - The LLE will allow bundles of modular (micro-credentials) provision to reach the 30 credits (e.g. 2x15 credits 3x10 etc).. 00:55:49 Clare Saunders (University of Staffordshire): On Debbie's point about educating the market: interested to hear who is taking up this offer and how you are reaching them? 00:55:53 Cathy TV: Is 15 credits for one microcredential or is it for a stack of them? 15 credits would normally be 150 hours of learning, which doesn't make me think of a microcredential - seems too long. 00:56:53 Georgina: Reacted to "On Debbie's point about educating the market: interested to hear who is taking up this offer and how you are reaching them?" with 👍 00:57:04 Laura: Reacted to "Thank you. I am just thinking about reporting (B3 etc…) Are there any considerations or actions you have had to take regarding these or others?" with 👍 00:57:11 Jane Hoar: it would be good to capture some of these questions as I doubt we will have time for them to be answered, and they are useful prompts for institutions to consider. 00:57:20 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): @Steven Osborne: cheers - do we know if there are any expectations how they are packaged up to 30 credits such as shared LO etc? 00:59:10 Steven Osborne: @Stefan Krummaker - the DfE pages provide examples of what will be acceptable https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/lifelong-learning-entitlement-lle-overview/lifelong-learning-entitlement-overview 01:05:11 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): Thanks, Steven: speed reading I saw a reference to ‘parent courses’ which must be delivered by the same provider. It appears it must be from a wider programme within the discipline. 01:08:32 Steven Osborne: Yes but a parent programme could potentially be a break point award e.g. a CertHE. I have worked with colleagues to design dedicated stackable parent awards instead of trying to retrofit traditional parent programme design for flexible learners - very different design considerations.. 01:09:12 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): Excellent point, Steven 01:09:40 Lauren Bouttell: What is the role of educators given the very flexible timing of courses, in terms of delivery but also how different forms of assessment are managed? 01:10:04 Team Wonkhe: @Jane Hoar re questions, we will share the chat transcript afterwards so you can pull the questions from there if helpful :) 01:11:37 Joanne Hunter: What feedback have you had from international employers (outside of the UK) as to the perceived value of microcredentials on potential employee CVs? 01:12:08 Mairin Nicell: I need to leave for another meeting but great session. Thanks Wonkhe for organising. 01:12:16 Ginny Page: SMEs rarely have the bandwidth for this sort of engagement but comprise the large majority of businesses in the UK. How we do we adults in their employ accessing microcredentials? 01:12:29 Stefan Krummaker (QMUL): @Lauren: primarily, educators are the learning architects designing the courses and act as tutors 01:12:48 Emma Heron Northampton Uni: Thanks you for an interesting session. I have another meeting now. 01:14:30 Elizabeth Avery: Are you offering the chance for the asynchronous micro credential students to join online societies/ UoC webinars etc so that they benefit from networking / communities of practices and grow their social capital? 01:15:23 Elizabeth Avery: Or signpost them to relevant professional societies / bodies? 01:17:58 Merina: Thank you, Wonkhe, for the session. I would need to leave now. I look forward to the recording and slide. Have a good day. :) 01:17:59 Ivana Ćurčić: Thank you. I look forward to the recording and the chat notes -- lots to process... excellent questions. 01:18:54 Steven Osborne: Thanks Debbie, Richard and Jean a great session to reinforce the potential of flexible learning and micro-credentials, whilst acknowledging the changes and proportional solutions needed to scale the provision... 01:18:55 Elizabeth Avery: Very insightful session many thanks everyone! 01:18:59 895107: Great session - very interesting - thanks for organising. 01:19:02 Julie McLarnon: Insightful. 01:19:03 Rachel: Very useful session - thank you! 01:19:04 Roisin McEvoy: Thank you 01:19:04 Aveline Perez de Vera: Thanks! 01:19:05 Fran Hooley: thank you all really interesting session 01:19:08 katie.allen: Thank you# 01:19:13 Nora Stokes: Thank you very much for organising, very informative. 01:19:18 Ruth Williams: Thanks everyone - really useful 01:19:21 Simon P: Great session, very informative. Thank you. 01:19:23 Lois McGrath: Diolch yn fawr / many thanks! 01:19:24 Helen Watson: Thank you everyone 😎 01:19:27 David Callaghan: Many thanks to all - lovely round up of international provision at the start :-)